Give them enough rope . . .

The last few years the climate change denier organisations have fooled themselves into thinking they are on a roll. (I am talking about deniers – not contrarians or sceptics). What with the “climategate affair,” the resulting investigations (which didn’t go their way) and the legal attacks on prominent climate scientists like Michael Mann (These have also failed). But really what they have been doing is feeding out the rope which will eventually hang them.

This is obviously the case with the US “think tank” The Heartland Institute. This rabid free market organisation had been trying hard to present themselves as purveyors of the “true” science on the climate. In particular, they have being sponsoring, together with a number of other dogmatic free market organisations, a conference they claim as “scientific.” But, they are not interested in finding facts, rather fighting facts. And that is the true purpose of their conference.

The Heartland Institute feeds out the rope with this billboard advertising there conference.

The most recent conference kicked off the other day (see Heartland Institute’s Seventh International Conference on Climate Change – ICCC-7). But its come at a bad time for them. Back in February there was the scandal of their leaked emails and documents. These revealed some details of their financial backers – as well as plans to subvert the educations system with climate denial propaganda  (see Heartland Institute gets mail and Heartland’s climategate – and Mann’s book). Then earlier this month  they really dished out the rope with a electronic billboard advertising this conference (see Heartland ignorant of public relations – let alone science).*

$825,000 gone – $1,430,000 to go!

This caused such a negative reaction that they pulled it within hours. But instead of effectively “fighting the facts” of climate science they were sawing off the branch they were sitting on. Within days they faced withdrawal of speakers from the conference, departure of staff,  and, more importantly, withdrawal of finance from some of their sponsors. See Guardian report Heartland Institute facing uncertain future as staff depart and cash dries up).

Have a look at Forecast the Facts – a webs site charting the decline in Heartland’s financial support. As of today $US825,000 of their projected 2012 Corporate support of US$2,225,00 has been pulled.

Presenting the facts and not fighting them.

And the climate reality project has responded with a public donor financed billboard giving some of the facts. This will be displayed throughout their conference. (You can make donations at Climate Reality | Donate).

All this has forced The Heartland Institute to fall back on other sponsors, both for their conference and for their own finances. Sponsors more directly and publicly connected to the fossil fuel industry (see Heartland Institute Hemorrhages Donors And Cash For Extremist Agenda, As Coal And Oil Step In).

“a coal lobby group has stepped in as one of its ‘gold’ sponsors. The Illinois coal chief praises Heartland for its work and ‘so we thought we would finally make a contribution to the organisation.’ He added, ‘In general, the message of the Heartland Institute is something the Illinois Coal Association supports.

In addition to the Illinois Coal Association, ExxonMobil, other oil companies, as well as Heritage Foundation have joined to sponsor the conference.”

Some of the Australian organisations cosponsoring Heartland’s conference

Mind you, have a look at their co-sponsors for this conference. A whole host of political, extreme right-wing, organisations. You will recognise some of the names. The George C. Marshall Institute (who denied tobacco was harmful), Institute for Private Enterprise, Australian Taxpayers Alliance (“fighting tax, regulation and waste”), Heritage Foundation, Ayn Rand Institute, Competitive Enterprise Institute, and so on.

By your friends we shall know you

Oh, by the way – the only New Zealand sponsor I could see was the New Zealand Climate Science Coalition.

Footnote:

*Even the climate change denial internet echo chamber was largely critical of the Heartland billboard. (Although local denier blog Climate Conversations couldn’t quite make up its mind. Richard Treadgold, poor guy, thought it was “a stupid, brave, heart-warming experiment.” Couldn’t quite bring himself to be critical, although most of his commenters were – see … is sauce for the gander). And the Heartland Institute is such a sensitive topic at Watts Up With That you need a special password to join in any discussion of the conference – see Protected: At the conference.

Update: Seems Watts Up With That was so excited about attending the conference they cocked up that post. So it’s no longer “protected.”

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49 responses to “Give them enough rope . . .

  1. Its funny watching people fight this battle in their minds about the various parties sponsoring the various groups on the Climate Change debate. The same people that own the oil companies also own the U.N and will benefit from carbon tax. Goldman Sachs. They know oil is running out/ or will run out fast, so IT IS THEM PUSHING CLIMATE CHANGE. There is no oil company sponsored ‘fight back’ to Climate Change. Morons like that David Rothschild like to speak of it, as it serves to distract attention from the fact it is his family that own the U.N and banking cartel. Then all the little University indoctrinated morons all go “tweet, tweet” and repeat what he said. These poor, weak people got taught they were smart, and that the World can be a paradise if we just get rid of that nasty carbon. They are fools and have been sucked into the Money Changes latest ploy/brainwash/scam.

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  2. They pick up cheesy little catch phrases like “The Mind Doesn’t Work if it’s Closed” and just go with that. It would very painful for these University indoctrinated morons to stop and open their own minds and see they have been conned. Open your mind and learn about HAARP. Everytime you hear of another quake and record flood, stop shaking in your boots and quacking on about carbon. Take a real lesson in the US Military weapon they are using instead.

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  3. James, you seem upset about something?

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  4. Whatever it is, it sounds very interesting.
    Goldman Sachs, the Rothchilds, the UN, the Banking cartels etc.
    The people deserve more details.
    Tell us more, James.
    Tell us about the ploy/brainwash/scam. How do “they” do it?

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  5. “Open your mind and learn about HAARP.”

    Ooh goody, nutty conspiracy theorist!

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  6. Hi Andrew – I am sorry I have hurt your feelings. And yes, the evil conspiracy ghosts are certainly out there. God help us. You seem really wise, so might I ask you what exactly is conspiracy about the US Military’s own documents and admissions? A nice point for me to make through- just like the Climate Kids, those who do not understand what HAARP is are also severely misled and short on real research/facts.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SToVBicIrJU

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  7. Hey kids, this interview is brilliant- I really recommend it. David Rothschild (Red Shield in German- see Germany 1935). Rothschild is the guy spearheading his families Carbon Tax movement. Alex Jones does a great job dismantling him (in his own overly passionate way of course). Enjoy, and learn something. We need you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2217NFvtdg

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  8. You seem really wise, so might I ask you what exactly is conspiracy about the US Military’s own documents and admissions…

    That’s an excellent point.
    So…the US military is in on this, right?
    Now are they controlling the Rothchilds and the Goldman Sachs of the world with their Banking cartels?
    Or is it the other way around?
    Is it the Banking cartels and the Rothchilds controlling the US military?
    How does the UN fit into all this?

    Alex Jones does a great job dismantling him…

    Alex Jones is a really good source of information. He’s maybe the best source of information on climate change out there. Him and Monckton, of course.

    Tell us about the ploy/brainwash/scam. How do “they” do it?

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  9. I realize that for political reasons this blog is one of the few still talking about those silly billboards from several weeks ago, but keep it up anyway. It doesn’t make you look politicized, it doesn’t make you look desperate. No seriously, it doesn’t. Lol!

    cheers

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  10. Bean Counter

    David Icke is a a useful resource on the global conspiracy

    I find his theories about the Lizard People quite scary

    http://www.davidicke.com/articles/reptilian-agenda-mainmenu-43

    .

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  11. Bean Counter

    The Reptilian Agenda, Part 1. With David Icke.
    A must see

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  12. Bean Counter

    David Icke, Alex Jones and The Reptilians
    You can’t ignore this. The picture is starting to take shape

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  13. I find his theories about the Lizard People quite scary…

    Scary is definitely the word for it. A quick look at his site reveals very spooky stuff….

    Welcome to Our New Lizard Overlords: Study Suggests Alien Worlds Could Be Full of Super-Intelligent Dinosaurs
    John Carter’s Shape-Shifting Inter-Dimensional Aliens = David Icke’s Reptilians
    Transdimensional Beings are Amongst Us
    ‘Reptilian Images on the Moon’
    Extraterrestrial Psychosis from Creationism to Evolutionism: Who Are We as Human Beings?
    Stuart Wilde: David Icke is Right about the Reptiles
    David Icke – Demonic Possessed Reptilian Rulers …
    David Icke – The Reptilians – the Schism – Obama and the New World Order
    Sun House – The Lizard of Oz (outro David Icke)
    David Icke – the Reptilian Brain
    Reptoids in the News
    Reptilian Death Cult: David Icke was Right
    62 Schoolchildren See UFO and Reptilian Beings
    The Reptilian Agenda – David Icke and Credo Mutwa
    The Reptilian ‘AntiChrist’…

    The big question is…what should we be scared of first?
    New lizard overlords?
    Transdimensional lizard overlords?
    Transdimensional lizard overlords from the moon?
    Demonically possessed, transdimensional lizard overlords from the moon?
    Demonically possessed, transdimensional lizard overlords from the moon running death cults?
    Demonically possessed, transdimensional lizard overlords from the moon running death cults who are the Anti-Christ?

    Club of Rome, UN, Big Brother, Rothchilds, Goldman Sachs, US Military, Goldstein, Banking cartels, Illuminatii, World Government, Hard Left Marxists that have secretly taken over all of Europe…and global warming.
    The hidden connection that they don’t want you to know…

    David Icke presenting Global Warming SCAM.

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  14. Bean Counter

    I’d be very concerned indeed Cedric.
    Even the mainstream newspapers are reporting that we could have alien lizard overlords.

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  15. The Daily Mail has always been a valuable news source for revealing the global
    warming hoax. There’s just no fooling them.

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  16. Bean Counter

    Look, even NASA affiliated scientists are warming of the alien threat

    Aliens may destroy humanity to protect other civilisations, say scientists

    Also, a top physicist has confirmed that David Icke is correct!

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  17. “Look, even NASA affiliated scientists are warming of the alien threat”
    They are talking about something completely different than aliens having infiltrated us. This report is about nothing more than speculation what could happen if we ever made contact to aliens.

    “Also, a top physicist has confirmed that David Icke is correct!”
    What exactly has he confirmed and in what way?

    More depressing than scary.

    D.

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  18. Look, even NASA affiliated scientists are warming of the alien threat…

    Let’s not confuse people with nuance and petty details.
    Just keep it simple and say that NASA has confirmed alien threats.
    Focus on the catchy headline and let the content fall where it may.

    Also, a top physicist has confirmed that David Icke is correct!

    We can jazz up a little.
    How about “Respected and eminent top physicists confirm that David Icke is correct! Apology from scientific world forthcoming?”.

    It’s really all about knowing what the people want. ;)

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  19. Bean Counter

    You won’t be laughing when the lizards take over, that is for sure

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  20. Bean Counter

    When someone is prepared to make a full length documentary debunking David Icke you know they are running scared.

    Why would they bother if he was just a nutter?

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  21. This report is about nothing more than speculation what could happen if we ever made contact to aliens.

    A likely story.
    Sounds like someone has been bought off by the alien, demonic, interdimensional moon-based lizards.
    Next thing you will be telling us is that the NASA scientists were not really NASA scientists and the NASA report was not really a NASA report and that NASA put out official statements that it didn’t have anything to do with it in the first place.
    Pshaw, I say. Pshaw!
    How much are the Rothschilds and the banking cartels paying you to spread their lies?

    Why would they bother if he was just a nutter?

    He has them running scared. We’ve been lied to so much, who knows what’s true? It’s all tied together. Wheels within wheels, my friends, wheels within wheels.

    The best explanation on reptilians David Icke on The Alex Jones Show

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  22. Bean Counter

    That Alex Jones video is pretty heavy stuff. We know all about those pedophile rings in the Church and elsewhere

    As he says, why are we hearing about this now? What is going on?

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  23. “Next thing you will be telling us is that the NASA scientists were not really NASA scientists and the NASA report was not really a NASA report [...]”
    Even better, the principal author’s name is Goldman _and_ his middle name is Domagal, nearly an Anagram of Goldman. Coincidence? I. Don’t. Think. So.

    D.

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  24. Bean Counter

    Hmm,

    http://www.astro.washington.edu/users/sgoldman/pages/shawn_d-g_cv.html

    Penn State, huh?
    More than a coincidence I feel.

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  25. Richard Christie

    Look, even NASA affiliated scientists are warming of the alien threat

    has to be a freudian slip.

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  26. Bean Counter

    What about those NASA guys at Heartland then?
    Is this a coincidence too?
    Or a Freudian slip?

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  27. “Look, even NASA affiliated scientists are warming of the alien threat…”
    has to be a freudian slip.”

    Oh, well spotted!
    Clearly subliminal propoganda is at work. :)

    What about those NASA guys at Heartland then?
    Is this a coincidence too?
    Or a Freudian slip?

    Or maybe, that’s just what they want us to think?

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  28. Bean Counter

    It is great to see such wholesome support for Lord Monckton.

    I agree with Cedric that LM is a great spokesman and has done much to expose the global conspiracy.

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  29. Oh yes. I’m rather proud of that one. I had to be very careful with the wording to avoid having my post deleted. Both my tongue and cheek were quite worn out composing it.
    (No idea how long it will stay up though.)

    The Unabomber billboard is indeed a “great stroke”. As in medical stroke. ;)

    Monckton is the best they have. It should be a rule that he should always be front and centre with these “conferences”. He’s the perfect representative. Truly wonderful.

    Open letter to Christopher Monckton — Please return to the debate

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  30. This is a fun sport. So far I am two for two.

    “Cedric Katesby says:
    May 23, 2012 at 1:09 am

    This is another sad aspect of the warmist takeover. I can remember not too many years ago, kicking back and looking forward to reading publications like Scientific American; now, I don’t know.

    It’ shameful how fully and completely the warmist takeover has been. All of the most famous science journals have been corrupted by the Warmist religion, even the very top ones such as “Science” and “Nature”. It is hard evidence of how worthless peer review truly is nowadays.

    Venerable institutions such as NASA, the USGS, the AAAS, the American Chemical Society are all tainted by the Al Gorists and their assorted minions. Indeed it is difficult, if not impossible, to find a scientific community that actively rejects the the nonsense of global warming. It’s like 1998 never happened to these people. Anything to keep the grant money flowing.

    Even the popular science magazines are now worthless. Sadly, it’s not just Scientific American.
    No wonder that some sheeple are duped into thinking that there is a scientific consensus. (As if scientific consensus meant anything except scientists gathering around the government slop bucket feeding on our tax dollars.)
    Darwinism and AlGorism are simply religions masquerading as “science”.
    Yet if you have the courage to question and demand real science, you are expelled.

    Yet there is hope. Blogs are independent of the stuffy atmosphere of academic dogma. It is there that real science can be discussed. Open review by dedicated individuals on the internet is the future. WUWT leads the way, of course and there’s lots of good material from Prisonplanet, AIG and Minnesotansforglobalwarming.
    Conservatives understand the real issue. Speakers such as Rush and Monckton have done Herculean work to push back against the so-called “scientists”.

    And, now conservatives are on our side; at least in America where a recent Pew poll showed only 19% of Republicans believe in man-made GW.

    That number will only go down further with each new survey. It will reach critical mass at about 15%, become too big to politely ignore by the lamestream media and then create a massive re-think that will cross political lines and spread to other countries. NASA and the rest will be forced to come to the table if they don’t want their precious money cut off. They have to learn to keep politics out of science.”
    Link

    I was going to add the “Green Dragon/Christian fundie/Climate Change” video as a link at the bottom but I thought that might give the game away.

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  31. Bean Counter

    A very concise summary Cedric and I am so glad that you didn’t mention the Reptilians because that might make us look like a bunch of kooks.

    I noticed that even Alex Jones seemed skeptical of David Icke’s views on Reptilian overlords in that video you posted!

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  32. Richard Christie

    Keep it up Cedric, perhaps you could help out Andy over at Hot Topic. Andy is very active there. He could do with a hand even though no one there has yet figured out how to shut him down.

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  33. Bean Counter

    Do you think Gavin Schmidt and Michael Mann are actually different people?
    Don’t they look similar?
    Have you ever seen them together?

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  34. Bean Counter

    It’s worse though folks

    Eco-Fascism Bares Its Teeth: Global Warming Alarmist Wants to Barcode Babies
    link

    Ha I can see you are laughing. Prison Planet, huh. It’s on the BBC, look here

    They are all in this together.

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  35. Eco-Fascism Bares Its Teeth: Global Warming Alarmist Wants to Barcode Babies

    (…jaw drops to the floor…)
    I’m not sure it’s even possible to parody a headline like that. It’s straight out of the Manifesto of Anders Breivik. Mind you, there’s a very simple reason why that’s the case.

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  36. Bean Counter

    Well there is certainly lots of interest in this “person” – looks suspicious to me – check out her photo here:

    http://thegwpf.org/the-climate-record/5791-global-warming-author-says-bar-code-everyone-at-birth.html

    Why is she hiding under that rock?

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  37. Hmm, Ok. I’ll take a shot at it:
    (Clears Throat)
    …………………………………………………

    The warmistas have revealed all. Will no one stop these mad brutes?
    Here’s what the BBC said taken from their own website!

    “Each week a global warming thinker from the worlds of global warming philosophy, global warming science, global warming psychology or the global warming arts is given a minute to put forward a global warming radical, inspiring or controversial idea – no matter how bloodthirsty – that they believe would change the world.

    This week global warming writer Elizabeth Moon argues that everyone should be given a global warming barcode at birth.

    “I want to be empress of the Universe and I want to insist on every individual having a unique ID permanently attached – a barcode if you will…
    …………………………………………………………………..

    (N.B. Some slight editing of text may have occurred. This was to help people understand the real agenda these Hard Left Marxists have. No need to thank me or check the original text for yourself.)

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  38. Richard Christie

    Yet there is hope. Blogs are independent of the stuffy atmosphere of academic dogma.

    …and not just blogs, don’t forget the importance of conferences, billboards and the Daily Mail.

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  39. Bean Counter

    The Daily Mail is a great source of information.
    I read it all the time.

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  40. Brilliant interview with Lord Monckton . It was “Global Warming” until the climate got colder. Then it was “Climate Change” until the climate stopped changing. Now its called something else…..the failure of the first attempt at a Global Tax based on nothing.

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  41. A great video/doco on the US Military Weapon called HAARP. The project is fully admitted and documented by the US Military. It has already been shown/proven to cause earthquakes and weather changes. Those chemical trails you see being left across the sky by strange jet aircraft (non commercial craft) is the chemical they require to ‘point’ or target the ultra low frequency waves that can move the jet stream and/or ‘drill’ the waves into the earth to see/ map what is underneath it. They use it to find oil/gas reserves, but it also triggers quakes. I am unsure if the ChCh quake was an accident of not- I think they were just looking for oil/gas (which they have found all over the Country and Coasts) but it was certainly HAARP that did it. And the records floods we have seen here and also in Fiji- they used it as a weapon against Fiji.

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  42. Ah Monckton – the “surprise” speaker at the almost defunct denier Heartland Conference.

    Complains because googling Monckton together with lies produces a large number of responses.

    I found for the wordpairs

    Moncton/lies 358.000
    Monckton/mad 901,000
    Monckton/mistake 1,300,00

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  43. Bean Counter

    I agree James, Lord Monckton is an excellent speaker and a great communicator of the climate change scam.

    Here he is with the hippies outside the Heartland Conference

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  44. Brilliant interview with Lord Monckton .

    Every interview with Monckton is brilliant. He’s the best. The very, very best.
    Monckton is to climate change as Icke is to reptilians.

    It was “Global Warming” until the climate got colder. Then it was “Climate Change” until the climate stopped changing.

    Yes! How stupid do they think we are? The Jedi Mind trick only works once and then you are immune to it. As long as you have seen the bit where Obi Wan manages to convince the Stormtroopers that those are not the droids they are looking for, then the hypno thingy doesn’t work any more.
    What’s really devious is how they manages to use time travel technology to make the phrases “global warming” and “climate change” appear on a regular basis in the scientific literature going back many decades.
    It so easy to spot what they have been doing. They are not fooling anyone.

    It has already been shown/proven to cause earthquakes and weather changes. Those chemical trails you see being left across the sky by strange jet aircraft…

    Nothing strange about them.
    Area 51. Hello?
    Of course, they can’t just come out and reveal that the US military has been in deep cover contact with the reptilians because that would cause a panic.

    “V” ABC TV Series Extended promo trailer

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  45. Bean Counter

    Monckton is the best the very best.
    Here is is in fine form talking about Agenda 21s Globalist Death Plan for Humanity.

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  46. I (heart) Agenda 21.

    “Agenda 21″ The UN’s diabolical plan for the world is explained on the “Glenn Beck Show”

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  47. Bean Counter

    AGENDA 21 – DEPOPULATION 2009 PART 1
    Watch and be alarmed.

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  48. Bean Counter

    Monckton on the Birth Certificate:

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