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		<title>Comment on Pseudosceptics are at it again &#8211; misrepresenting and attacking climate scientists by Ken</title>
		<link>http://openparachute.wordpress.com/2013/05/16/pseudosceptics-are-at-it-again-misrepresenting-and-attacking-climate-scientists/#comment-40103</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 06:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andy, care to comment on my point above about how you got confused in the comparison of CO2 levels and paleotemperatures? Frustrating I can&#039;t call you out on Treadgold&#039;s blog but I guess he doesn&#039;t like me pointing these things out. You have a chance to put yourself right here.

But please, no Gish galloping here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, care to comment on my point above about how you got confused in the comparison of CO2 levels and paleotemperatures? Frustrating I can&#8217;t call you out on Treadgold&#8217;s blog but I guess he doesn&#8217;t like me pointing these things out. You have a chance to put yourself right here.</p>
<p>But please, no Gish galloping here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pseudosceptics are at it again &#8211; misrepresenting and attacking climate scientists by Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 06:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I could do the right thing. It would be impressive if I did

The problem is, I have no idea what the &quot;right think&quot; is in this case. I have already laid out all the facts as I see them. 

I am sure this rather trainspotterish discussion must be fascinating to a vanishingly small part of the population. Maybe we should move on. Maybe we could talk about how cool Chris Hadfield is? My son certainly has taken an interest in Space which he didn&#039;t have otherwise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could do the right thing. It would be impressive if I did</p>
<p>The problem is, I have no idea what the &#8220;right think&#8221; is in this case. I have already laid out all the facts as I see them. </p>
<p>I am sure this rather trainspotterish discussion must be fascinating to a vanishingly small part of the population. Maybe we should move on. Maybe we could talk about how cool Chris Hadfield is? My son certainly has taken an interest in Space which he didn&#8217;t have otherwise.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pseudosceptics are at it again &#8211; misrepresenting and attacking climate scientists by Cedric Katesby</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cedric Katesby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 18:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andy could do the right thing. It would be really impressive if he did but I&#039;m not going to hold my breath. It&#039;s painfully clear what happened and he must be able to see it for himself even without Ken&#039;s prodding but...(shrug).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy could do the right thing. It would be really impressive if he did but I&#8217;m not going to hold my breath. It&#8217;s painfully clear what happened and he must be able to see it for himself even without Ken&#8217;s prodding but&#8230;(shrug).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pseudosceptics are at it again &#8211; misrepresenting and attacking climate scientists by Ken</title>
		<link>http://openparachute.wordpress.com/2013/05/16/pseudosceptics-are-at-it-again-misrepresenting-and-attacking-climate-scientists/#comment-40096</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 08:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andy,

Unfortunately I can&#039;t reply to you on Treadgold&#039;s blog for obvious reasons but this comment of yours is easily answered:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;David

Those that follow the scriptures of the warmist creed tell us that CO2 is a major “control knob” of the Earth’s climate

Tell me whether you agree with this looking at this graph

http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/images/co2-levels-over-time_thumb.png&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Just have a look at the video in my article above - it specifically deals with that image and question. Short answer, you can&#039;t find a simple correlation of paleo global temperatures with either CO2 or solar energy - but there is a good correlation when both are combined.

If you spent more time looking a what is known about climate instead of reiterating these sort of denier memes you might actually learn something.

And be careful of Cumming - who shouts that CO2 is a refrigerant so can&#039;t cause warming, or Treadgold who has found that when he goes into a glasshouse with high CO2 levels its cold so CO2 can&#039;t cause warming. They are characters aren&#039;t they - real simpletons, poor souls.

Christ that blog is real madhouse tonight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,</p>
<p>Unfortunately I can&#8217;t reply to you on Treadgold&#8217;s blog for obvious reasons but this comment of yours is easily answered:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;David</p>
<p>Those that follow the scriptures of the warmist creed tell us that CO2 is a major “control knob” of the Earth’s climate</p>
<p>Tell me whether you agree with this looking at this graph</p>
<p><a href="http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/images/co2-levels-over-time_thumb.png" rel="nofollow">http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/images/co2-levels-over-time_thumb.png</a>&#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p>Just have a look at the video in my article above &#8211; it specifically deals with that image and question. Short answer, you can&#8217;t find a simple correlation of paleo global temperatures with either CO2 or solar energy &#8211; but there is a good correlation when both are combined.</p>
<p>If you spent more time looking a what is known about climate instead of reiterating these sort of denier memes you might actually learn something.</p>
<p>And be careful of Cumming &#8211; who shouts that CO2 is a refrigerant so can&#8217;t cause warming, or Treadgold who has found that when he goes into a glasshouse with high CO2 levels its cold so CO2 can&#8217;t cause warming. They are characters aren&#8217;t they &#8211; real simpletons, poor souls.</p>
<p>Christ that blog is real madhouse tonight.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pseudosceptics are at it again &#8211; misrepresenting and attacking climate scientists by Ken</title>
		<link>http://openparachute.wordpress.com/2013/05/16/pseudosceptics-are-at-it-again-misrepresenting-and-attacking-climate-scientists/#comment-40093</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 02:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, I am not blaming you for other&#039;s lies. That&#039;s a diversion. 

Feign whatever you like, Andy. But we are all free to draw conclusions about your own morality by the people you support and positions you take.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I am not blaming you for other&#8217;s lies. That&#8217;s a diversion. </p>
<p>Feign whatever you like, Andy. But we are all free to draw conclusions about your own morality by the people you support and positions you take.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pseudosceptics are at it again &#8211; misrepresenting and attacking climate scientists by Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 02:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hang on, you are blaming me for the articles in the NBR and CCG? How exactly?

Or am I supposed to feign some moral outrage for associating with the likes of RT et al?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hang on, you are blaming me for the articles in the NBR and CCG? How exactly?</p>
<p>Or am I supposed to feign some moral outrage for associating with the likes of RT et al?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pseudosceptics are at it again &#8211; misrepresenting and attacking climate scientists by Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 02:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andy - &quot; was because I didn&#039;t actually examine the text in detail,&quot; might in reality be true, if lazy.  

But I think when people like you and Treadgold are into maligning honest scientists you should put in the effort. You should check what is in front of you. 

Instead you went straight to the reporter&#039;s mistake because it suited your bias! 

Hence your mistake. 

Yes, I know we all do this sort of thing. We all go in for confirmation bias - and I repeat we are not a rational species, more a rationalising one. 

But, I am approaching this from an ethical perspective. If you are going to malign an honest person you should really check on your facts. 

Otherwise you are setting yourself up for a gutser - as this case shows.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy &#8211; &#8221; was because I didn&#8217;t actually examine the text in detail,&#8221; might in reality be true, if lazy.  </p>
<p>But I think when people like you and Treadgold are into maligning honest scientists you should put in the effort. You should check what is in front of you. </p>
<p>Instead you went straight to the reporter&#8217;s mistake because it suited your bias! </p>
<p>Hence your mistake. </p>
<p>Yes, I know we all do this sort of thing. We all go in for confirmation bias &#8211; and I repeat we are not a rational species, more a rationalising one. </p>
<p>But, I am approaching this from an ethical perspective. If you are going to malign an honest person you should really check on your facts. </p>
<p>Otherwise you are setting yourself up for a gutser &#8211; as this case shows.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pseudosceptics are at it again &#8211; misrepresenting and attacking climate scientists by Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 02:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reason I didn&#039;t provide any further info was because I didn&#039;t actually examine the text in detail, so I didn&#039;t pick up on the issue that you raised.

This is getting a bit tedious don&#039;t you think?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason I didn&#8217;t provide any further info was because I didn&#8217;t actually examine the text in detail, so I didn&#8217;t pick up on the issue that you raised.</p>
<p>This is getting a bit tedious don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pseudosceptics are at it again &#8211; misrepresenting and attacking climate scientists by Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 02:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don’t be disingenuous Andy. 

In this case you chose to post the full text of the misleading part, including highlighting the bit Treadgold was clinging to. And you chose not to highlight the actual transcript - which provided the evidence showing Treadgold&#039;s dishonesty. 

Yes. I do think sometimes it&#039;s best to cut and paste text (although don&#039;t go silly like Cumming does, poor soul). Often people have not got the motivation to bother with a link. 

And I did not say at all that links should not be provided. Don&#039;t misrepresent me - or does that come intuitively to you guys?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t be disingenuous Andy. </p>
<p>In this case you chose to post the full text of the misleading part, including highlighting the bit Treadgold was clinging to. And you chose not to highlight the actual transcript &#8211; which provided the evidence showing Treadgold&#8217;s dishonesty. </p>
<p>Yes. I do think sometimes it&#8217;s best to cut and paste text (although don&#8217;t go silly like Cumming does, poor soul). Often people have not got the motivation to bother with a link. </p>
<p>And I did not say at all that links should not be provided. Don&#8217;t misrepresent me &#8211; or does that come intuitively to you guys?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pseudosceptics are at it again &#8211; misrepresenting and attacking climate scientists by Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 02:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So you think that I should not provide any links but should cut and paste entire documents into blog posts?

Is that your policy here?
I am happy to oblige. Just say the word]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you think that I should not provide any links but should cut and paste entire documents into blog posts?</p>
<p>Is that your policy here?<br />
I am happy to oblige. Just say the word</p>
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